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	<title>Comments on: Will Associations Go the Way of Print Media?</title>
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		<title>By: What should SCIP do? &#124; SWDuncan</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>What should SCIP do? &#124; SWDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A while back Ellen asked me to suggest what scip should do. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Duncan</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen - wasn&#039;t sure you did trackbacks, so here&#039;s a link to my answer: http://www.swduncan.com/archives/2009/09/18/what-should-scip-do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen &#8211; wasn&#8217;t sure you did trackbacks, so here&#8217;s a link to my answer: <a href="http://www.swduncan.com/archives/2009/09/18/what-should-scip-do" rel="nofollow">http://www.swduncan.com/archives/2009/09/18/what-should-scip-do</a></p>
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		<title>By: ellendnaylor</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>ellendnaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer....you make a good point that SCIP should consider a reduced membership fee for people just starting out like you, since cashflow can be challenging.

Well Steve...let it all hang out...what do you think SCIP should do, based on your assessment? Especially w/social networking? I see more activity on LinkedIn, Twitter &amp; Facebook, mostly outgoing. But as mentioned in the post, the SCIP On-line is valuable if you really want to follow CI. It captures relevant articles, blogs etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer&#8230;.you make a good point that SCIP should consider a reduced membership fee for people just starting out like you, since cashflow can be challenging.</p>
<p>Well Steve&#8230;let it all hang out&#8230;what do you think SCIP should do, based on your assessment? Especially w/social networking? I see more activity on LinkedIn, Twitter &amp; Facebook, mostly outgoing. But as mentioned in the post, the SCIP On-line is valuable if you really want to follow CI. It captures relevant articles, blogs etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Duncan</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I forgot to address the print media bit.

A large chunk of print media has been, and will continue to be obliterated by the internet. 

The smart ones will find ways to communicate prints advantages to protect existing markets, and will find new markets. They&#039;ll also work like hell to understand &#039;new&#039; media and work with it.

The not so smart ones will cut costs and focus on efficiency.

So what does this have to do with associations?

Social media is to associations what the internet is to printing, as you said.

Some associations will learn to leverage social media to add value to their events and other services.

Others will route their news through Twitter, start a group on Linkedin, and call social media &#039;done&#039;. Then they&#039;ll cut costs and focus on  efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I forgot to address the print media bit.</p>
<p>A large chunk of print media has been, and will continue to be obliterated by the internet. </p>
<p>The smart ones will find ways to communicate prints advantages to protect existing markets, and will find new markets. They&#8217;ll also work like hell to understand &#8216;new&#8217; media and work with it.</p>
<p>The not so smart ones will cut costs and focus on efficiency.</p>
<p>So what does this have to do with associations?</p>
<p>Social media is to associations what the internet is to printing, as you said.</p>
<p>Some associations will learn to leverage social media to add value to their events and other services.</p>
<p>Others will route their news through Twitter, start a group on Linkedin, and call social media &#8216;done&#8217;. Then they&#8217;ll cut costs and focus on  efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Duncan</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Jennifer please don&#039;t waste your money on SCIP. Wait until you have an employer that will foot the bill, and then go. The value just isn&#039;t there otherwise, in my opinion. If you must, sign up for a year, go to the conference, take the courses, and then you&#039;ll have had what SCIP has to offer.

Second, my father once told me that associations exist primarily to provide cover for company execs to talk to each other without being accused of anti-trust activity. Anything else they do is sauce for the goose. As an employee of a trade association I&#039;d say there&#039;s a large grain of truth to that assessment, but I would add that doing trade shows is nearly as important as providing cover. 

While one can meet some great people online, if you want to meet people in your industry and develop relationships over time I think an association can provide value. 

The problem is that many of them simply don&#039;t cater to the membership but instead a small segment of it. Saddled with politics and baggage, they excel at keeping the old guard comfy while doing very little to enable growth amongst the newbies. 

I put SCIP in this category. The newbie is considered a student, suitable for attending classes and hiring consultants. The old guard are those who teach the classes and work as consultants. Newbies are not encouraged to make the jump to being old guard. So, to the extent you wish to attend classes and hire consultants, you will enjoy SCIP.

Lastly, I like to say I don&#039;t put Ellen in the old guard category - she&#039;s a delightful &amp; insightful exception to the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Jennifer please don&#8217;t waste your money on SCIP. Wait until you have an employer that will foot the bill, and then go. The value just isn&#8217;t there otherwise, in my opinion. If you must, sign up for a year, go to the conference, take the courses, and then you&#8217;ll have had what SCIP has to offer.</p>
<p>Second, my father once told me that associations exist primarily to provide cover for company execs to talk to each other without being accused of anti-trust activity. Anything else they do is sauce for the goose. As an employee of a trade association I&#8217;d say there&#8217;s a large grain of truth to that assessment, but I would add that doing trade shows is nearly as important as providing cover. </p>
<p>While one can meet some great people online, if you want to meet people in your industry and develop relationships over time I think an association can provide value. </p>
<p>The problem is that many of them simply don&#8217;t cater to the membership but instead a small segment of it. Saddled with politics and baggage, they excel at keeping the old guard comfy while doing very little to enable growth amongst the newbies. </p>
<p>I put SCIP in this category. The newbie is considered a student, suitable for attending classes and hiring consultants. The old guard are those who teach the classes and work as consultants. Newbies are not encouraged to make the jump to being old guard. So, to the extent you wish to attend classes and hire consultants, you will enjoy SCIP.</p>
<p>Lastly, I like to say I don&#8217;t put Ellen in the old guard category &#8211; she&#8217;s a delightful &amp; insightful exception to the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Splash: A Blog from MemberClicks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Staying relevant in an electronic world</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Splash: A Blog from MemberClicks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Staying relevant in an electronic world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://cooperativeintelligenceblog.com/2009/08/31/will-associations-go-the-way-of-print-media/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your blog.  I am an aspiring CI analyst and read it all the time.  I currently work for a law firm where I do entry-level CI work.  I think associations are great, but they should have membership categories that allow those of us who are just starting out the opportunity to join for a lower cost, like SLA does.  (I really want to join SCIP, but my company won&#039;t pay for a membership yet and I have not been able to get the extra $ together for the membership fee on my own.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your blog.  I am an aspiring CI analyst and read it all the time.  I currently work for a law firm where I do entry-level CI work.  I think associations are great, but they should have membership categories that allow those of us who are just starting out the opportunity to join for a lower cost, like SLA does.  (I really want to join SCIP, but my company won&#8217;t pay for a membership yet and I have not been able to get the extra $ together for the membership fee on my own.)</p>
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